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This is Alec's Final Tribal Council Thread.

All other Jurors should remain in their own threads. Final 3, remember... this is not for you to address each other, but to talk to Alec. In-fighting amongst the Final 3 should be reserved for the Live Final Tribal Council on Sunday.

Alec, you have until Saturday at 8c/9e to post your statements/questions to the Final 3. Remember not to take up too much of their time as they have 8 other jurors to get to. Please no listing or questions requiring novels for answers. You should post all of your statements/questions in your opening post in this thread. There is a live Final Council on Sunday where you will get to address everyone live about the statements they have made as well ask ask follow ups.
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Hey boys. Let's start on a high note - congrats for making it to the finals. I had some stuff written up for two of you but honestly the opening statements had a huge impact on everything , so I'm starting fresh. Davie, Donathan, thank you for being candidly open about your own weaknesses in your statements, to acknowledge that you both played lowkey, subdued games and that people are likely not gonna be thrilled about it is respectable.

Survivor: Samoa is a memorable season for a lot of people for a lot of reasons, but one sticks out - Natalie White beat Russel Hantz and Mick Trimming 7-2-0. While a lot of viewers, likely a lot of us included, thought that Russel was outright robbed as the votes were being read at FTC, these days the reasoning if a lot more obvious. Russel was a strategic mastermind in many regards, but what he failed to understand is that you can only lie to and disrespect so many people in this game. In the end, you need people to respect not only your game,but your character. Natalie understood this just fine, and followed Russel to the end while maintaining respectful enough relationships with the jury to demolish Russel.

Seabitch. Your opening statement says one thing about you - you're consistent. You've maintained an atrocious superiority complex the entire game, and your statement only serves as a testament to this. You're about half accurate, I'd say, but as Angela already pointed out (not gonna waste too much time touching on what she did), you're acting like a ringleader when you would quickly go with the majority at the earliest sign of difficulty. Now the other two sitting beside you have done a ton of that themselves, but the fact is they were upfront about it, and they didn't mock anybody in the process. They certainly didn't try and twist siding with the majority into them calling the shots like you did in your statement.

I have one question for you, Seabiscuit, and it's this: What makes you think you aren't about to be the Russel Hantz of Stranded: Morocco, only with less impressive strategic moves?


Don. Honestly, you pissed me off when you took me out but only for your vote comment - your game has been atrocious and you really didn't do yourself much of a favour there. They call you Chelsea's pet goat, but I prefer sheep personally. While some think you got yourself to the end, I'm not much of a believer. If Robb didn't no show you wouldn't have won immunity, but you'd still be here. If Gabby didn't go at F4, you'd still be here. There were really a ton of ways the cards could've fallen, but you'd still be here. You were, as it stands, basically in everyone's final 3, and I don't think I need to explain why.

I don't think you made the moves you thought you did. Let's be clear - you didn't make me feel safe because I trusted you, I felt safe because I truly didn't think you were stupid enough to continue being a sheep that far into the game. Everything in your final 5 paragraph makes me laugh , and let it be known that you didn't succeed at making your gameplay clearer in your statement other than the fact that you'd be here as somebodies goat no matter how this game went down.

Simply put: it's been well-known that you were a goat since before the merge and you found it acceptable to avoid trying to shake that image until roughly f5. Why do you think a winning majority of us are even considering you at this point when most of us were out to prove ourselves since day one?


Davie. I gotta give you one thing and that is respect. This was something you understood in this game and it's obvious that of the three of you, you're the one I respect the most. That being said - I don't respect the lazy game. I understand not logging in every day, but after reading your statement I have my doubts that you gave your all in challenges, and for the most part you stuck to the majority like glue. I'm impressed that you cleared it all the way to f3 after I went, with you and Gabby being on the short end of the stick, but outlasting Robb, Gabby and Chelsea also isn't the most impressive thing considering if any of them were up there with you today, you'd be fucked. My question is this:

Is not playing the game truly a winning strategy? Do you think it was worth going to the end with a cocky shithead and the player that's been considered a leech the entire time instead of showing the jury why you're worth their vote and making a big move against the majority near he end?


I'm sure you're all lovely human beings, but show me why any of you deserve any one of the jury's rightful fucking spot at FTC, because right now Clay is a more appealing vote than any of you. icon_yawn
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Survivor: Samoa is a memorable season for a lot of people for a lot of reasons, but one sticks out - Natalie White beat Russel Hantz and Mick Trimming 7-2-0. While a lot of viewers, likely a lot of us included, thought that Russel was outright robbed as the votes were being read at FTC, these days the reasoning if a lot more obvious. Russel was a strategic mastermind in many regards, but what he failed to understand is that you can only lie to and disrespect so many people in this game. In the end, you need people to respect not only your game,but your character. Natalie understood this just fine, and followed Russel to the end while maintaining respectful enough relationships with the jury to demolish Russel.

Seabitch. Your opening statement says one thing about you - you're consistent. You've maintained an atrocious superiority complex the entire game, and your statement only serves as a testament to this. You're about half accurate, I'd say, but as Angela already pointed out (not gonna waste too much time touching on what she did), you're acting like a ringleader when you would quickly go with the majority at the earliest sign of difficulty. Now the other two sitting beside you have done a ton of that themselves, but the fact is they were upfront about it, and they didn't mock anybody in the process. They certainly didn't try and twist siding with the majority into them calling the shots like you did in your statement.

I have one question for you, Seabiscuit, and it's this: What makes you think you aren't about to be the Russel Hantz of Stranded: Morocco, only with less impressive strategic moves?
I once again have to go back to my opening statement that you seem to loath and reference something I said early on- and that is the importance of timing. I remember after Mike had gone at the final 11 and you had been blindsided, we had an interesting conversation about how you wanted to go after Mike at the final 9. This was what you wanted, but not what benefited my game. Terms like "floating" and "going with the majority" are extremely accurate depictions of what I did. I don't think I claimed to be a mastermind or the director, but rather a better way to describe my game is in charge of information and aware of my position within the tribe. I believe I went with the flow but understood how I would fit into most people's plans in the game. I think contrary to this, I have done a lot of things in this game (such as blindsiding you) and ensuring my safety throughout the season.

Now for your question- I don't think I am anything like Russell Hantz. I don't believe I have actively called any of you mean names, treated you as garbage, or have these delusions of grandeur that you all seem to think I have. Every bad jury management decision I made was a game decision (I.E. Dealbreaking or lying). I would like to believe I am not the Russell Hantz of this season because I didn't treat you like human objects at my disposal. And unlike Russell Hantz I am absolutely willing to own the game I played and admit that I hurt all of you along the way.
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they didn't mock anybody in the process.
Sorry this is bugging me. Can you tell me what I did to mock you? I didn't feel as if I ever mocked you in the game. The only people I think I "mocked" in the game were Pat and Davie and it was mostly due to inactivity and nothing personal. Maybe it is a fault in my game that I don't remember mocking you? I really don't remember any times our conversations turned into some form of bullying/toxicity between us. But if it did, I would like to address it now and own up to it. Allow me to apologize to you if I came after your character in some way, but I need some context.
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You mocked everyone in TC by constantly flaunting how safe you were. And as you just admitted, mocked Davie and Pat to their faces. Im not here to only take my personal feelings into account - I'm here wondering how this strategy of respecting nobody was supposed to work in your favour.
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You mocked everyone in TC by constantly flaunting how safe you were. And as you just admitted, mocked Davie and Pat to their faces. Im not here to only take my personal feelings into account - I'm here wondering how this strategy of respecting nobody was supposed to work in your favour.
At tribal councils, my flaunting of safety served so purposes. One- I knew it would make me look like a douchebag. This would incline more people to consider taking me further into the game. Two- to remind people I had an idol and that I could play it at any time. A large reason I was safe had to do with me ensuring that people who mentioned my idol were either voted out, or at the very least thought that I could play it sometime soon. That was the strategy behind being unpleasant during tribal council. If you look back I tried to keep my insults vague and cocky as opposed to personal and spiteful. I think they did serve the purpose I intended even if I used it a little too much. So for that I am sorry, I wasn’t looking to burn bridges through it.
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Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:17:15 pm
Davie. I gotta give you one thing and that is respect. This was something you understood in this game and it's obvious that of the three of you, you're the one I respect the most. That being said - I don't respect the lazy game. I understand not logging in every day, but after reading your statement I have my doubts that you gave your all in challenges, and for the most part you stuck to the majority like glue. I'm impressed that you cleared it all the way to f3 after I went, with you and Gabby being on the short end of the stick, but outlasting Robb, Gabby and Chelsea also isn't the most impressive thing considering if any of them were up there with you today, you'd be fucked. My question is this:

Is not playing the game truly a winning strategy? Do you think it was worth going to the end with a cocky shithead and the player that's been considered a leech the entire time instead of showing the jury why you're worth their vote and making a big move against the majority near he end?
Thank you, Alec. I don't think that I played a lazy game, I did actually try in the challenges. I stuck to the majority votes rather than "making a move" because it benefited me, all the players that I considered threats were pretty focused on taking each other out. I felt that at a certain point a big move was unnecessary to get myself to the end. I'm more old school in the belief that good gameplay doesn't necessarily revolve around making big moves. I identified a methodology in which I would be safe and all but guaranteed a spot in the final three, and I stuck to it. It wasn't flashy, I agree, but it still took a lot of effort and I hope the jury sees the worth in my style of gameplay.
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Hi Alec whats up dude!! This was been the hardest juror question for me to process i'm not gonna lie your words really impacted me because damn you scalped me bald lmao… You say you don’t think that I made the moves that I think I did and I didn’t succeed at making my gameplay clearer in my statement, but instead it made you laugh. So if a 3 page dissertation explaining the fact that I was playing this game from day one didn’t work to convince you, I’m not sure there’s anything I can say now that will and I respect that! I am aware that my quiet style of gameplay isn’t sexy and that there’s the argument to be made that I could have been constantly proving myself during the game through my actions rather than having to sit here and only have my words try to prove that I was playing. That’s a completely valid thought process and I understand why you and other members of the jury would be quick to dismiss me.

What I won’t stand for is being called stupid because voting you out was nothing but beneficial for me and it does not reflect on me being a sheep. Whatever reasoning you had for feeling safe enough to leave with an idol in your pocket Alec…... you had Robb giving you red flags, you had Sebastian giving you red flags, hell I even came to you trying to see if you were open to making another move so that you would stay and your response showed me that wasn’t a viable option so I knew I had to cut ties……...you still got voted out because you felt secure enough. That was a mistake that you made in this game and whatever role I played in it even if you say you didn’t trust me or if you thought I was just too stupid to take you out, I knowingly played that role and you can’t take away the fact that I had a hand in you leaving. I obviously don’t have a huge claim over that move and I’m not going to sit here and take full credit for something you know I didn’t orchestrate as the puppet master, but you were a smart and strong player with connections to people on the jury so you leaving wasn’t a stupid move for me because I’m here.

I don’t think that a winning majority of you all on the jury came into this section of the game even considering to vote for me to win, and I have made that clear just as you all have made it clear that wasn’t the case. What I will say is that I think that I deserve your respect as a game player to give me that consideration to vote for me. It’s up to you all to decide whether you ultimately do vote for me or not, but I feel as though through addressing you all I have proved that I am worthy of you giving me a chance of taking what I say into consideration and using everything to help you all best decide how to vote based on being fully aware of all sides of the story, mine included.
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Thanks boys, I think you all covered what I wanted to know. We'll converse a bit more at FTC but until then,enjoy the anxiousness of not knowing who we're voting for ;)

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